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Bitcoin / Tether USD May 12 2024 60500.00 Call
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Hi u/Doso777
du bist ja ungefähr bei 4,54%. Was spricht dagegene ein portfolio aus diesen ETFs zu bauen.
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Seit 2021 landet man gemittelt bei 4,6% Dividende. Jeden Monat gibt es etwas. Ich plane, sollte man BTC Investment sich entsprechend entwickeln, auf diese 3Etfs mit jeweils 25% umzusteigen und die letzten 25% in BTC zu verlassen für weiteres wachstum.

Is this the right time to buy BTC and Eth?

Dumping 20% is a normal Tuesday night for BTC.
If Satoshi's wallet became active again and started selling there would be blood on the streets. Mostly on the street where Michael Saylor lives. And if he starts selling as well we could well be down 50 - 60% before it stabilises.
A lot of shitcoins will go to zero. No one will want to be left holding those bags.
Maybe ETH and SOL might be the ones to come out of it stronger.

80% to Bitcoin. Store in cold wallet. Reason is simple, there's no second best.
Why holding BTC Treasury company stock? It isn't yours.

Imagine finding even a speck of BTC at that price. Nearly 500x

Maybe there is a circle of people who are connected to BTC, the US administration and GME. Maybe. Maybe.
And maybe this one is a big maybe, there is a similar one involving the group that is purchasing TikToc, the federal government and GameStop. [GME-BTC Wasp Circle](https://imgur.com/gallery/inner-btc-4CmaqrM)

It's necessary for adoption and conviction though, seeing BTC fly away to 200k while you sold during a minor dip.. So many people bought back higher.

1) I’ve never said BTC price can’t go down, I just keep reiterating the fact that BTC is the fastest growing asset of all-time and it isn’t remotely close despite BTC’s volatility.
2) Median real estate value increases ~4%/year when priced in dollars being printed into infinity. Median real estate value decrease ~40%/year when priced in absolutely scarce BTC. Real estate has objectively been a terrible investment relative to BTC for more than a decade now.
3) Spot ETF’s getting approved at the beginning of 2024 were a major game changer as it unlocked tens of trillions of dollars tied up in TradFi to easily pour into BTC using pre-existing TradFi infrastructure. Trump getting elected in 2024 WITH a full Republican sweep of both the House and Senate dramatically increased the likelihood that the U.S. will begin actively buying BTC for their strategic reserve. “Changing your mind when presented with new information is a sign of intelligence.” The facts changed so my outlook on altcoins more broadly changed as it started becoming increasingly obvious that all altcoins are headed to zero when priced in absolutely scarce BTC.
4) I have a Bachelor’s degree in Economics, have worked in investment banking for 9 years, and have spent 1000+ hours independently studying BTC and the history of money for the past several years, neither of which is taught when attaining a formal education in economics. I don’t know absolutely everything about BTC but I can say with a high degree of confidence that I understand BTC better than 99% of people on the planet and I’m here to help share what I know.

Fees are supposed to take over in the case Botcoin was designed by Satoshi, without block size limit. In the case of BTC, fees have a negative feedback loop, meaning that higher fees drive usage/adoption down. BTC is designed to fail, thats why MasterCard and others stopped worrying about it. BTC is not real Bitcoin because of it, it's a fork of the real Bitcoin. Keep HODLing though!

1 BTC = 100 million Sats

Well... Yeah... sellers and buyers gonna sell and buy. Gotta remember there is an extremely large cohort with a cost base of $10, $100, $1000 BTC. For many, taking profits when you're up orders of magnitude is the logical thing to do.

I've been debating selling off my BTC because I think when the AI bubble pops Bitcoin will pull back way further than gold. Idk, your thoughts?

For sheer number of scam involvements, nothing beats BTC.
Don't you also get those spam mails that want you to become rich by "investing" in BTC? Or the occasional mail of a "hacker" that claims to have recorded you with your notebook camera doing naughty things and now tries to extort BTC from you? That's so prevalent, it even has its own name: *Sextortion*.
Spam mails that look like somebody sent you a login for an exchange by accident, where BTC are waiting for you that you mined, and you only have to pay USD 50 in BTC first before you can withdraw the accumulated riches, are downright clever in comparison :)
Not to forget that the whole ransomware business runs almost exclusively on BTC ...
So if Monero gets further restricted "after so many scams" we need to talk about scapegoats, or deliberate "misunderstandings", if you ask me.

I remember that guy that did these reddit posts. 125k loan to buy this shambles of bitcoin back at 17k. The poor lad must be so wrecked...
Oh no! BTC is trading at 110k.
Great decision! 

I don't think there's an "alt season" anymore, just like I don't think there's going to be a "crypto winter" nor a "banana zone" or anything else like that. BTC is too solid, now and all the rest is throwing away your stacks.
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Got the family on the phone
They ask what they should buy
I say a time machine to take you back
To when I was trying
To get you buying on the low
Instead you tryna buy high
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\- Lil' Bubble, *'All Time High'*

Yes always.
Bitcoin-to-gold ratio (ounces of gold needed to buy one Bitcoin). When the ratio rises, Bitcoin is outperforming gold; when it falls, gold is outperforming. Data shows periods of both, but Bitcoin's long-term trend favors outperformance.
|Period|Bitcoin Return|Gold Return|Bitcoin Outperformance?|Key Context|
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|2013–2022 (10 years)|\+2,099%|\+58%|Yes (massive)||
2020–2025 (COVID to present) BTC Return: +1,000%+ (from \~$10K to $90K+) Gold Return:+100%+ (from \~$1,500/oz to $3,000+/oz) Bitcoin Out performance: Yes overall, but mixed.
2022–2024 (bear recovery)BTC Return: +600% (from $16K lows)Gold Return: +50% Bitcoin Out performance: Yes.
We are at 18% btc return compared to 30% gold right now 2025 but bull run hasn't ended. Yes it will pump harder and after gold. Have some conviction already.

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted for your good-faith discussion.
>Bitcoin hasn’t been used as. a pure p2p protocol for at least 10 years now, that point is moot
So your argument is that, since BTC is no longer a p2p protocol, and has obviously appreciated a lot since then, so therefore conclusion, these things can't be an important factor to price? Makes sense to me. The question then is why.
There are, to my mind, three major problems with BTC:
1. Transaction times
2. Fees
People will disagree on how bad these two problems actually are, but I feel like almost everybody accepts that nobody wil ever buy their coffees/anything under 300 or so with BTC. The argument I ussually hear from BTC maxi's on this subject is that they don't actually 'use' BTC, they just BTC as to back their credit card, and sell of huge amounts of BTC as they need. The transactions times in particular make it essentially useless for ordinary fiscal use.
That's fine, and functional, but nonetheless, I think not the point.
The third is miner profitability. While large-scale miners are doing fine, the day of 'mine at home' Joe is over. In fairness, it's over everywhere. It's not something I personally consider to be a big deal.
Obviously, there have been various attempts to resolve these problems, and I think a lot of them have succeeded- they offer faster, cheaper transactions.
The issue is that they have ussally either
a) compromised largely in some important facet, leading to the famous trilemma (e.g Eth)
or
b) Generally fail to gain significant momentum (relative to BTC), despite, as far as I know, not compromising in way (i.e Litecoin)
It seems obviously superior to me if we can have a currency with the properties of BTC, but with smaller tnx fees and times, without having to rely on ad hoc workaround mechanisms. Better is better.

Yes, it is very likely that BTC will go to 0……….. any time now ……… lol

I don’t disagree that cost of living dramatically increases over time, it definitely does. I was just pointing out that the numbers you were throwing out seemed pretty highly inflated relative to how much it actually costs to live decently even in a HCOL area.
The only two asset classes which have been able to consistently outpace cost of living to enable you to grow purchasing power in real terms over time after factoring in inflation have been tech stocks and BTC. And between those two, BTC has vastly outperformed for virtually any window of time of 4 years or longer.

Didn't it already fall to 3,650 along with BTC to 112?