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Fintech, maybe, but BTC I don't think so!
It was not email that killed the post office; it was FedEx & UPS doing the same job better, faster, cheaper.

Sorry sir but you are making some false assumptions. I just got paid an Invoice this week I'm BTC. Last month I bought a car with BTC. Thinking about listing my rental house in CA for BTC. I pay my streaming service monthly with BTC.
I give customers a 3% off if they pay with BTC instead of Credit Cards.
So don't go saying things that just aren't true.
There's definitely plenty of people using it for payments.

It’s a giant Ponzi,
I invest and use bitcoin but I understand that everyone ( most people) just wants to sell at a higher price.
For that too happen another person must buy at that intended price
The new guy is paying for my profit
and what happens if suddenly people lose interest in BTC the ponzi collapses

Total BTC hash rate jumped above 1.25 Zetahashes/s (daily average).
That's 1.25 \* 10^(21) Hashes/s & a double up from 1yr ago.

I was looking at some of the recent data and saw some really interesting things happening in the crypto space. It seems like for the first time in a while, two of the biggest players are heading in completely opposite directions.
A. Bitcoin's Institutional Ascent: A New Digital Gold
The cryptocurrency market is showing a clear split in how big money is being allocated. Bitcoin is cementing its position as a "digital gold," and the numbers are backing it up.
1. US spot Bitcoin ETFs just saw nearly $2.9 billion in inflows over a seven-day streak.
2. The total holdings of these ETFs are now a record 1.32 million BTC, accounting for 6.6% of Bitcoin's total market cap.
3. This institutional demand is outpacing new supply from mining by nearly nine times, creating serious upward pressure on the price.
B. Ethereum's Quiet Maturation and Institutional Outflows
Ethereum's story is a bit different. The network just went through a major technical upgrade (Pectra) that's supposed to make it more efficient and scalable. But institutional investors seem to be looking right past that.
1. As Bitcoin was seeing massive inflows, Ethereum ETFs experienced significant outflows, totaling over $341 million in a single week.
It seems like for many large investors, fundamental network improvements are secondary to the narrative and liquidity. They're seeing Bitcoin as a store of value, and that's all that seems to matter to them right now.
What's everyone's take on this? Is this a sign that for big money, Bitcoin's "digital gold" narrative is all that matters, or is there a bigger long-term play for Ethereum that institutional players aren't seeing yet?
P.S. I’ve been working on a research paper about a “Financial Intelligence Layer” to explain dynamics like this. It’s not ready yet, but if you're interested, let me know in the comments and I'll be in touch with a link.

A part of boomer wealth is in the form of the national debt and printing money they will never pay back, they'll all be gone.
Converting your fiat for BTC, in theory, circumvents that. You'll pay taxes, but you aren't part of the asset system that has over $30 trillion in debt *you and I* will pay, and the 16 year old working down at the supermarket.

Unless you’re a sophisticated investor the best gains are not made from quick, high leverage trades. That is dopamine trading. The best gains are made over time. That is why all those people who have made millions on BTC deserve the gains because they bought early and stuck it out when everyone else was selling. Buy BTC - lock it up for 10 years and you’ll make more than any of your leverage trades.

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End of November because the money needs to flow to buy stuff. Those Black Friday sales arent going to happen without people having a little more money in their accounts. At that point, game on towards Yuletide. Another rate cut this year and good Q4 postings in tech, the alt season will bleed over into ‘26.
As a sidebar, GTFO of BTC well before ‘27. About mid-27 BTC will crash so hard that Saylor’s tears will raise the oceans.

I dunno, personally I wouldn't risk buying into stocks and shares or BTC at this stage in the bull run, in a lump sum.
With a 3 year timeline you could be looking at coming out with the same money you put in - or worse.
Depends whether you can afford to take the risk of losing a significant percentage of your money.
If anything, waiting a year to buy things like BTC especially, it might be cheaper. But it depends on the repetition of cycle patterns.
But yeah, if you're ok with the risk, there's plenty of juicy options that others have suggested - you might be fine, things might just keep on growing.

> The only way BTC grows to billions is that at least 20-30% know how to use it and are able.
I loathe this argument, that bitcoin must be changed in order to facilitate adoption. Bitcoin does not need adoption, it already serves its purpose perfectly well.
In your case, just store your seed phrase in a safe place, and make sure that your children are able to get to it when you die. They'll figure it out.

Sell what? I would exchange my BTC for stuff I want to buy, but I would not exchange my BTC for worthless paper currency and keep my savings on that, it's way smarter to keep my savings in BTC and just buy what I need when I need it with my BTC.
BTC is my unit of savings and I do not recognize government currencies as valuable

Stuck BTC in vault

Satoshi was not the Messiah, just because he had a vision it doesn’t mean it’s the only vision
BTC will be the global currency, all other currencies will be backed my BTC.
That’s what Satoshi was trying to fix

Swap BTC anonymously?

Bitcoin needs to be used. It needs to be a utility.
The miners need the transaction fees.
Someday when all 21 million BTC will be mined, the only incentive for mining will be the fees.

It’s becoming more evident with each passing year that it won’t have mass adoption as a currency.
You said, **My first intro to BTC I imagined it becoming as easy as Apple Pay or a Samsung wallet. Tap and go. Maybe that is the future and I hope so.**
It’s not a currency. Each transaction is a taxable event so a long as it’s not legally categorized as a currency it won’t be used in the tap and go way.
It’s a store of value as of now. Perhaps that changes  in the future. The trajectory points to it going more and more in that direction so it’s best to get familiar and comfortable with self custody.

Even in San Salvador the Adoption rate went from 25% in 2018 to 8% in 2024. what does this tell you…. BTC is just a scam.

BTC narrative has pivoted 4 times in last 6 years, from Segwit to Lightning to "store of value", it's dead.

You kinda are though.
Multiplying ETHBTC × (ETH supply / BTC supply) is literally the same algebra as comparing ETH’s market cap to BTC’s market cap. That ratio is market cap share, regardless of what you call it.
Market cap = circulating supply × price, yes. Liquidity depth is a separate topic, but it doesn’t make the cap metric “bullshit.” Every asset has the same flaw — you can’t sell 100% of supply instantly without slippage. Yet market cap is still the standard way to compare scale.
If you’re trying to argue SOL has more upside, that’s fine — but the “23% vs 5%” math is still just market cap ratio in disguise, not some new framework. The real debate should be around:
• Adoption (users, transactions, fees)
• Security assumptions & validator economics
• Inflation / emissions schedule
• Revenue sustainability
That’s where SOL vs ETH gets interesting — not in a back-doored market cap calc.