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Bitcoin Cash December 27 2024 Futures
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That's BCH. BTC is Bitcoin the SoV.

In BCH we trust

All true, I honestly hope that ponzi scheme crashes soon so BCH can also reclaim the brand.

>in theory bitcoin price would still continue increasing to infinity
No
>but i am scared that the opposite might happen..
Good, still a bit of brain left that isn't completely consumed by greed.
>bitcoin depends on supply and demand. will it eventually become just a store of value and nothing more?
No, the crippled one will either crash because of the lack of a use case or it will become a collector token like art for the rich. The poor 99% will not be able to hold it self custodial and will have IOUs which will be, again, controlled by banks.
>what are the implication of adopting 100% of bitcoin worldwide?
That's impossible with BTC. But if a working Bitcoin would be adopted 100%, everyone would use it in their daily live and there would be no need or control from the banks. And our lives would improve dramatically because of it.
>A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.
Thi is why Bitcoin forked into BTC and BCH. They crippled BTC to not get there.

>High fees during congestion? As long as BTC fees are cheaper at the time of transfer than bank wire fees then your point is so-so.
That's the neat part. Congestion __IS__ the BTC default. The blocksize was specifically crippled to raise fees. Everyone confirmed this.
So if anything, the current situation with around 300k tx per day or less than 0.01% of the population showing interest in transacting is the abnormal thing. Where you, I and John Doe could transact, but we don't, otherwise it would be congested.
>but to sit there and tell me BTC doesn't work as a currency, just because it has higher fees,
You hold this opinion, because you have no idea what "normal" fees are supposed to be for BTC. If you calculate them to replace the halfing coinbase you get something like 200$ per tx. If you calculate it from the throughput however, we KNOW that the top 0.01%-1% will price out everyone else. Are you in the 1%?
It's a trap set for the gullible. They defend it, against working p2p cash and in the end they will be priced out and need to rely on custodian(aka banks) again.
>You cant just nitpick at the historical data to fit your narrative.
As I showed you, there is no need for that. Logic and the statements of devs and the community are enough.
>That's the beauty of crypto. It is technology, constantly improving and innovating.
Yes, everyone BUT BTC. Because the Ossifiers won the blocksize war.
>If one is too costly or slow or congested for your needs at time of transfer, then there is another crypto ready to fill the gap. I generally use BTC, BCH, LTC, and now SOL.
That's good. But I like to look at the greater goal of changing the system with a sound currency that everyone can use self custodial. And then I must say, from the coins you mentioned there is only BCH which can do it. The future outcome is important to me.
>Not everybody accepts whichever your preferred crypto may be
If everyone is driving more or less luxurious horse carriages but you already found a gas motor powered car wouldn't you want to tell everyone?

Ok Ill be fair with you and have a debate as weve already done before, we are starting to sound like a scratched CD-ROM.
What's there to be reminded of? High fees during congestion? As long as BTC fees are cheaper at the time of transfer than bank wire fees then your point is so-so.
BCH is nice and way cheaper, and faster. That's undeniable, but to sit there and tell me BTC doesn't work as a currency, just because it has higher fees, when I'm able to send several thousand dollars for, usually, cheaper, and quicker despite TPS, than a bank does... is quite obtuse. You cant just nitpick at the historical data to fit your narrative.
That's the beauty of crypto. It is technology, constantly improving and innovating. If one is too costly or slow or congested for your needs at time of transfer, then there is another crypto ready to fill the gap. I generally use BTC, BCH, LTC, and now SOL.
Not everybody accepts whichever your preferred crypto may be, and you should know that if you actually use them for what they're for.

This cycle will be the dinocoin/currency coin/suit coin cycle. All the stuff that missed out on crazy breakthroughs last time. 2021 was the utility coin cycle, this will be the currency coin cycle.
LTC, BCH, XRP, XLM, XMR, XNO, etc all look ready to explode.
Suit coins like algo, hbar, sui should also do well. L1s (dot, atom), non eth chains (AVAX, FTM, SOL etc) look less good for major moves.

BCH literally feels like the 2015 Bitcoin p2p cash revolution. Same goals, same spirit.

I love it when BCH get shit on 😂

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r/bitcoin is a cult. If you start raising serious questions and don't echo the bitcoin euphoria, they'll just ban you.
This sub actually should've been called r/BCH

Definitely Bitcoin Cash (BCH). It has the most long term potential out of the whole crypto space.
It is like BTC but actually works as currency and also has real DeFi.

Try BCH

Adding crypto won't help in a situation like this sadly, if there is content the payment processor dislikes and says you can not have, even if you only accept crypto for those products, they will still deny your merchant account.
They should certainly try again though with BCH instead of BTC. It would work so well.
Small block people really fucked us there, I thought we had made it when Steam accepted the first time..
..then boom.

Yeah, increase the block size. BCH already did it; it isn't hard. It's just really, really hard to get people to agree.

BCH is a hard fork - a completely different coin on a completely different programming language. BTC has been soft forked at times to include things like segwit and taproot if memory serves correctly. Omitting satoshi era addresses would simply be a soft fork. Quantum proofing the other 99% of wallet addresses would be also be another soft fork. So to make bitcoin as it is now completely 100% immune from quantum computing would essentially require two different soft forks, or implementing both at the same time is my (perhaps flawed) understanding.
Quantum proofing is something that we all want, no doubt.
But should we also completely omit satoshi-era wallets? Im on the fence about what should be done in this situation. Some people here have said that those coins should "remain lost forever." Others think that they should be retrievable via quantum. But do we want to see a quantum-inspired black swan event similar to what happened in March 2020 price-wise?

Most mentions on r/cc (2025-07-16 00:00:00):
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|BTC|403|
|ETH|164|
|XRP|78|
|SOL|48|
|USDT|39|
|MOON|32|
|USDC|20|
|SAFE|15|
|FLOW|12|
|HOME|12|
|BONK|10|
|IP|9|
|SUI|9|
|HBAR|8|
|PUMP|8|
|FARTCOIN|7|
|LTC|7|
|ARB|6|
|BCH|6|
|NANO|6|
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>As for the latter, isn't the lighting network doing quite well in the regard of BTC usage?
With 7tps on L1 it would take 30 to 60 years(!) for everyone to make a single channel opening transaction, no other traffic allowed.
L1 fees bleed into L2 which has caused to real trouble during past high fee events. This is the reason why almost all LN wallets are custodial these days. And also why all LN stats are stale or even pointing down. bitcoinvisuals.com/lightning
>Do you believe it will stop at the lighting network or will there be an even better solution except the one of using a fork?
The fork is the better solution. It is the only solution when the chain is captured and broken.
>I'm just curious why would someone use a fork if there is the real deal?
A fork is the real deal. If BTC would vanish today nobody would bet an eye and accept BCH as Bitcoin. A hardfork is nothing special. BTC hard forked before, just no contentious. For the capture they had to condemn hardforks because they are the tool against capture.

It will be another fork. Like BCH LTC

Why BCH?